How do they reconcile the two opposing ideas. ETC, 22 khokar to mazahabi hote h agar punjab side ka ho to btaiyo k atwal kya chamar surname h, Please Add These Also. 0081001500006681 y sambuk sudra rishi was killed by cruel rama . [17] The association discriminated against lower-status Chamars, such as the "Guliyas", who did not claim Kshatriya status. My grandmom said we belong to a punjab clan. They take every famous caste to be their own. They have nothing left and resent the rise of those who worked for them. We will all leave this world some day. toora ,swan, jhamat, chonkriya, poud ,virdi are also our castes surname plz add. ke schedule ya notification se nayi caste banayi gayi Hamare Dharam ke hisab se tumko koi Jaat nahi di gayi.. isliye ab rona band ker.. Haryana mein Rajput Az bi 2017 mein Chamaro ko Marriage mein Ghode pe nahi baithne deta .. usko pass jitena marzi paisa ho.. kyon ki wo unko Hindu nahi mante ! He claimed to have obtained this information from Chanwar Purana, an ancient Sanskrit-language text purportedly discovered by a sage in a Himalayan cave. Just read a book history of Jats where it has been shown a surname of Jat caste is found in many castes. This gotra is 600 years old jatt gotra.They are very kind and brave jatts.If anybody had doubt read the history book Vilayatpur ,In this book mention all the history of Punjab jatts. At least our Bhagats & Gurus had made a good example of how sikhs should be like, caste was non existent amongst them yet Hindus tried everything possible to put them down, embarrass them, even to the point to hurt them. old with the blashings of sringi rishi who was also given his sister whose progny of brahmins spreaded thouhgt . Media again contolled by largely the Brahmins and its associates.Culture You only have to look at the India film industry, arts, music etc virtually controlled and heavily influenced by the Brahmins and their assciates. That is why the wily brahmin is much hated figure all over India and abroad. Surnames (Basra, Jassal and Kainth- are Tonk Kshatriya, Kalsi & Sahota are Ramgarhiya Tarkhan and Bhardwajs are Brahmins) in the above lists of castes of CHAMARS are absolutely wrong. What our elders could not achieve our children are doing and achieving because they have pure hearts. You are all equal. parmatmatman /parambrahman made man /woman to enjoy peace purity of heart to maditate to maintain lovely link . Upashna Barve. Secondly we are very proud of who we are Chamars. rabb ik a .. marke tu v kirtpur jana te chamaara ne v ds hai koi frk . plz, make me clear, ram kumar bhai je ma pani nepal kai hu temi malai friend request pathau na mero facebook ID:nabin_gims@yahoo.com. ALL YOU PPL ARE FUCKED HERE! : Being overtly proud of your caste is pointless. Raghbir Singh. tab honge sab brabar naa reservatio ka panga.. pgir koi reservation mange to goli maar do.. you are indian and chamaar is indian both are brother and sister but your cmment for chamar cast is not good mere bhai, Att kara tee.thumz up. chamar ka sirunchaa rakhhna he to pehle hum kisiko satate nhi aur hum skill se agey aate he reservation se nahi ye sabit karo warna panguu k panguu hi rahoge yaad rakhna, Mai Orissa ka ek chamar hun or mai chamar caste honeka hamesa proud feel karta gun,hum kuch educated person milke ek committee gadhke gaon gaon ghum k logoko rabidas baba k bare me samjhate hen,or hum ko uchhe barg k logon kis tarah se dalit karte hen us bare mai samjhate hen. Take SANDHU out of this publishing cause its not good. Nd i belongs to chamar cast, Add Sampla and Maman and Suman!!! according to past and present time we can see warrior skills and bravery in jatt race . [15] For example, around 1910, U.B.S. Padmane. Starting with the most common statement (or its variants) that Dalits hear: "You do not look like a Dalit" or "you do not speak or . You Mr Dhillon and your fellow caste members are the prime culprit who still refusing to accept Guru Nanaks message of Truth yet ironically sikh religion and its centres are controlled, for the wrong reasons, by your people and yet you call yourself sikhs. Now that is what I call deceiving on a grand scale to millions of people. You should only be proud of stuff that you accomplished not what you inherited! they should come to forward now the time has been changed . But my dad is jatt.. Our surname is kailey.. three. Please clarify my doubt. I think every caste should proud of their history. Chamar (or Jatav/Chanwar Chamar)[2] is a depressed Class community classified as a Scheduled Caste under positive modern India's system of affirmative action. 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There are over 6000 castes that belong to SC/ST Backward Classes which are all Non Hindu. As The illuminated said above there are some organization which focus on eliminating caste discrimination in West Midland area. Sandhu is another of those names. Did Guru ravidass not talk about Begampura and dreamed of raj where every had food clothing and shelter and where all live together happily. [59], This article is about the Indian caste. I m chamar.vil. i feel pain by seeing corruption and injustice by fake sc st act on innocents. These Dera Ballan authorities are trying to brainwash the community that this is not the case, how sick are they. Or ye caste bhagwan ne nhi khud inshan ne banai hai. Ricky you need to get your facts right by doing research as to why this has happened. I do not understand your point. thank you I can honestly say there is nothing more beautiful than Sikhi in its purest form. But Indias maximum media does not show or publish this news. I have full report of abuse and harrasment. An intelligent man arguing with a fool makes the intelligent man a bigger fool. I am wrinitng to you to ask for help as I have faced discrimination at work due to my catse,. r yours? No matter what, if traced back to the their origins these are all JATT last names. My friends are from all different backgrounds. Yes fair enough i accept that by marrying out of caste she is obviously not castist. I am 6.2 in heigt, b.com honrs graduate from delhi university, national in volley ball, has a well muscular fit body, is a fitness model. This was an attempt to change the mindset.Hence starting from guru Nanak ji by the time of Guru Angad Dev ji it became essential for a person to sit in langar (as a token that he believes in equality of all) before having an audience with Guru himself. PUNB0008100. But the above jatt lady had voted with her feet by marrying a chamar because she went for higher things than caste .ie love. This list is misleading as many of the castes listed are not of chamars. Ahir, Yadav 12011/68/93-BCC(C) dt. They should be banished for good. Its simple as that ! India is crying out to the young people to eradicate this cancer which has infected the indians and given them a caste mindset. There is no room for brahminvad in Sikhism. people belong to sc and bc classes never hesitate to tell about their castes. path nhi tuhnu sade srnme bare jhno ye alag ne Chamiar Sikh surnames mann mrhar bains randava sidu sndhu verk pavar torr Johal bhtti kalon kalar bal sra dhalival dhilo mainu ane bre path ye hor bi sare srnme han thanks, LIKE MY GOTRA IS SUMMAN ..WHAT IS THE HISTORY OF THIS NAME ..COULD SOMEONE PLZ EXPLAIN IT, some of these are not real chamar surnames, Jo maine name mein likhi nahin hai Na use Naam ki tune banaa do, Can someone tell where is jathere of gouttar bal chamar, I am chamar and I feel too much proud because we belongs to dr. Baba sahab bhim rao ambedkar sahab. You could enlist the help of CASTEWATCH UK, which monitors caste based discrimination and will assist you on to your next course of action. 99. You are the one who is ignorant, backward, with dirty mind and hypocrite. Unless of course she is lying and her jatt family did give her hard time which would make them the people that are letting the flame burn and the ones that need to get a fucking life .To answer your question, yes of course i would marry off my daughters/ sisters into other castes/ faiths. They believe that leatherwork is "degrading" when compared to weaving. Majority of your community disagree with you al and do not want anything to do with you. Jalwan you need to broaden your vocabulary and spelling all I am saying is that a lot of the surnames listed at the top of this page are not implicitly chamar names.. therefore should not be listed as such. He is a pharmacist by profession.Thanks, Kya asa nahen ho sakta hai ki all over india sabhe chammaron ka ak he sername ho jissa hum ak doosre ko pahichan sake hum kiyon alag 2 sarname k chakkar mai padan. No such thing again. The emancipation of the poor and vulnerable is the single most important problem that needs addressing in the world today, when the weak grow strong, only then will the atrocities and injustices in the world cease. Yours and your children days are numbered for bulling low caste people. There is nothing to be proud or ashamed of your so called caste because it is not in your hands in which caste you are born.Why cannot indians understand that they were slaves for. Shudras and ati shudras need to capture political power for their emancipation. Jatism and Brahminism are sisters.Shame on you for calling yourself Sikh. Cham-E-Aar caste came into existence only in Mughal Islamic rulers time in India. & Date 1. Achank gir ke mar gayee. To conclude by having sarovars in gurudwaras or adjacent to worship place Guru ji made a successful attempt to remove the deep rooted believe in caste based discrimination. Oh bhai jyaada matt uchal apni caste(chakar) ko lekar. salhan is another chumar surname too, which I would like to have added to the list please. If you will respect other caste/religion, they will regard. oh realy.agar aap jatt peoples sach mai insaan ho to respect kro har ek castes ki..mariages kro.hatao cast systm ko.. tenu time dasu jatta de putt.fuking bull shit..and u jagdish sharma ur animal.ek time aouga tu brahmin ho k jutte polish karega.. Aside made by this, the UN48B7000 furthermore delivers complete colors plus deep black colored levels. IS not showing in This list why. Dr. B.R. Ham toh rajput hai hamare pass kayee safe sadhan tha background achha hai hamare sath bhedbhav bhi no hota . Kash does not know nor understand the reasons why reservation was enshrined in the Indian constitution, by the Father and Chief Architect of the Indian constitution, Dr BR Ambedkar, the most and best educated person in India at the time, approved by Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi and Jawhar Lal Nehru amongst others and finally by the Indian Parliament in 1952. use mind . If our people ever spoke of the injustice they suffered, they faced starvation for them and their whole families. Abe ooye brahmin ki aulad , tum loogon ne kya kiya ..saalon logon ko dharm ke naam pr pagal banakr, malai khate gae tujhe to yeh bhi nahi pata hoga tumhara religion kitna ganda hai , usme kitna flous hainsalon ne itne gande kam kiye zindgi bhar, agar aaj Guru gobind ji zinda hote to teri zuban kat dete .tu kisi chamar,chhura etc. THERE ARE TWO REGIMENTS NAMED CHAMAR REGIMENT AND MAHAR REGIMENT. JAI BHEEM -JAI RAVIDAS-JAI BHARAT, Dear Sir, My stepmother is a maan and she is from Ramghriya tribe. Reservation is nice and should b used by needy people of sc st obc caste. gotra /surname jalwan=jalwana=jalwani = jalwania=jalwaniya=jalan=jalani = jala=makwana=jalla malla=jhalwan=jhalawan = jalawan=jale jalia=jaliya FOUND IN sc=bc=genral IN north/south/east /west IN india ,pakistan ,afganitan ,lebnon,syria,soudi arabia, england, frans, usa N SO ON IN hinduS /sikhS /cristianS /muslimS THEY ARE all brothers origin same and equal . khokhra NORTH surnames is also comes in this community mainly in Malwa belt (Ludhiana Lalton kalan village ), im sure ur parents too hav it. All men and women are equal in God's eyes. This is a contradiction in terms. I want to know whether Juhi Chawla, the film heroine, and Manjari Chawla, a native of Rajasthan, recently appointed Judge in a California Court, U.S.A., also belong to Chamar caste or any other schedule caste? It seems to you are the dumb ass and dont know anything or have not learnt anything except live in total ignorance. jatiwal What are the scheduled caste surnames list in India? Why cannot they just accept they have another Sikh brother in their presence. There is nothing wrong with respecting our ancestoral heritage. Those names that have been identified as also jatt surnames should be catagorised as such. (Manu Simariti Chap. Some surname in this list doesnt belong to chamar caste . I KNOW FOR A FACT BOPARAI AND CHAHAL ARE JATT YOU CUNT. here we understand father is same chandal half brahman is lower to khatri who is half akshtriya that is wrong since in hindu akshtriya is lower to brahman . Abe namunne 1970 ki ishvi me paida hue old insaan hai kya tu. Anyway I hope the caste system eventually becomes obsolete in India as all it does is stop the development of India. It is energy-efficient, though, with a few power-saving modalities, and nonetheless delivers serious black levels on an LCD hdtv. . I want every chamar to become a political animal and be inspired and think of raj. SC ki reservation ke dushman kewal apne hi hindu bhai hai bhaiyon sabhi aawaz uthao ki hum sabhi sc ko apni tarah hi dekhna or swikarna chahte hai.. aage se sadi byah kewal hindu dekhkar karo cast dekhkar nahi.dada layi sabhi properties ko sabhi mai barabar baant do kewal khud kamai ko chhod kar phir kar do khatm reservation. I WANT TO A GOOD SURENMAE FOR ME . My mom said keshav is your surname and i search everywhere about this surname . The people from my community may be poor but you will find them honest. Caste is just another form of racism! You will be proud and pleased to read the history of Chamar. Aside from that, i would like to once again agree with the lady in condemning this feed ( as i did earlier) as it is promoting the caste system. I dont think were better than anyone I just wanna figure out why the fuck youre stealing our last names. Religious practices and taboos differ from region to region and caste to caste. Are you serious or are you taking the piss? (LogOut/ It has not been shown in above list. They probably havent done an hours worth of farming in their life never mind a lifetimes worth. Chamar Names | The Ravidassia Community ppl use to use their surname as sehgal. I am from the California and this website is very very good.VAHE GURU! WE, CHAMARS ARE THE DESCENDANT OF RAVIDAS JI AND ALWAYS PROUD OF IT .. OM SHRI SADAGURU RAVIDASAY NAMAH . Castism in Indian society is a hard fact and we have to live within it. As a brother I feel it is not required .Reason is clear that is whatever U do nothing is going to change as for as society is concern. Wages were always paid in food, barely enough to survive. according to past and present time we can see warrior skills and bravery in jatt race . ajj mennu kise ne pushea te me onnu keha ke sohang sadda NISHAN aa E sadde babbean ne ditta a !!! CHAMAR OFFICIAL ONLINE SHOP - Chamar By keeping the shudras divided by all sort of means they would never rise to challenge the Brahmin hemegony. You are a minoroty, majority Chamar are natural born Sikhs. I know one of you morons is going to comment saying some shit about sikhism and the caste system, and wellsuck my dick. industrial minister of haryana).punia also jat bisnoi. law of science- energy he created to BE born by him or his family . Nt chamar Sikha Caste Systems - Different Caste and Subastes System in Sikh But yes things are changing rapidly. Read your shashtras and you will understand the procedures adopted. Lakin ye log samjhane ko tayer nahi hein.me bhi chamar caste se belong karti hu and I am proud that I am a chamar because hamere guru saint siromani ravidas ji hein.pata nahi ye log kab sudhrege, Thpd m gadjaga bhut bol lia chup hoja ib jhukna pdega bhla tu h anpad gwar t teri soch ni 1970 ki. Excellent Analysis of high caste power and corruption in India and how the low castes can gain political power in India for their betterment. You are jatts best friend because we work and live together I love you. is not indicating false pride of jat race that their bahu of kunbi caste claiming rajput while jodha married to mugal akbar happily accepted n kept raja mansing in his service. Poll: What is your opinion on leaving the Shri Guru Granth Sahib? I 2nd that I knew nothing of the caste system until I was 14. It is the so called upper caste people who should be ashamed of it because they expoited the lower castes for 10 thousands years and kept them poor. Who taught you that you idiot. 4. Being a chamar does not make you apart of ravidassia religion. They became scattered and the modern day romany or gypsies are the decendants of the Jatts. Dont swear makes your look stupid. Im research student from Japan. All India Saint Shiromani Ravidas Samaj Vikas Samiti Betul District Betul. Parvathamma, C. (1989), Scheduled Castes at the Cross Roads, Ashish Publishing House, Delhi. SO GOTRA IS IMPORTANT NOT CASTE . Brahmins , Kashatriyas and Vaishivs did not create anything nor work . population as at tJiBn atlon of POpufo 0 the last census of the Scheduled Castes or, as the case may be, of Scheduled So yea, say what you want these so many of these belonged to Jatt people originally and no one else. they should proud of their caste but not humiliate to others. Forget our upbringing and parents, we know how to deal with cowards and jackasses like you so better not comment here, if anyone I MEAN ANYONE gets offended here they will make you run for your money and lets see who will burn in hell. Somebody that makes uneducated and rude comments, as she clearly did, is ignorant. Chavar vansh k chamar hi budhist the . However, when very low caste sikhs migrated to countries such as the US, Canada and the UK, they thought of it as a chance to start a clean slate where people would not be able to identify their caste. If someone is discriminatory, pls make a police complaint so that he is amply harrassed and learns a good lesson. I cant believe in 2020 you all still believe in caste. Orientation. . PRASRAM FOUGHT WIH SHANTNU STEP GREAT GRAND FATHER OF ARJUN-BROTHER INLAW OF KRISN REBUKED LAXMAN BROTHER OF RAM (SAME AGE) .BHARTIY SANSKRITI 6th 7th 8th incarnationS OF GOD MEET SIMULTNIOUSLY PARASRAM RAM KRISHN HERE . Momis are known as agriculturists and land owners in Punjab, who belong to Kamboj caste. Remember, whether you are Jatt or Chumar or any caste, you follow the same religion, you read the same Book. List of Scheduled Castes in Uttar Pradesh. If Jats were merely farmers and caste was merely work relatedhow many Jats were lawyers..did they suddenly become a lawyer caste ??? Kya tandon chamar ka naam hota h i am tandon kya me chamar hu. many theories have been put forward. No one can claim a surname, yes if you have same or similar surnames does not mean your stealing off one another. The youth of today can only change this by not getting influenced or brainwashed by backward Dera like Dera Ballan Best of luck people, life is short, dont waste it on ridiculous, stupid, backward topics, learn to move on. Pathetic people have made this system ages ago, when hardly any one was educated then, Im a Sharma (Brahmin) .. And I hate this bs, we should we proud that we are Indians ! It should never have been the case. Sad but true, its here to stay. Just changing your surname to a Jatt one DOES NOT make it Chamar. When we die, we with take nothing with us, so why be so egoistic? I am also chamar but will not reveal to anyone and keep my mouth mum whensome talk about casteI mean whatever people say we do know that once someone know u r caste 90% of time they start judging you based on castehave seen lots of cases when people reveal their caste and other friends/neighbour start neglecting them.better to keep mum and do whatever you can do or able to do for the community.but dont accept ot talk about community