I had a conversation with Eduardas he confirmed that they will improve the feedback system. On top of that they have so many odd restrictions and hoops you need to keep jumping through just to make your model visible and people end up having to buy diamond accounts because they know they won't sell a single model unless they do. I had hoped that CGTrader would want to be the kings but i have to be honest if you licence a thing only here you have to own it forever, as you cannot sell that licence. Founded in 2000, Turbosquid has championed growth in the 3D space through partnerships with leaders in the industry. If there is a problem they will fix it for you. However, probably allot of us silently disagree on how we are treated as artist on places like Ts. Doesn't seem so. That is a serious problem because it means a whole lot more work for sellers and I wish they would just get with the program. Cubebrush. This would allow genuine potential buyers to check the quality of models. Gritsuk : Hello Friends, glad to present you my model Female Hand Realistic. Look for the big picture and think medium/long term. A serious problem indeed about Turbosquid is its policy of setting up barriers to avoid having a direct link to customers (this includes banning of al communication technologies). Buyers tend to look for things based on the category and budget and like to be able to put two products side by side to compare them and get a better understanding of why one is better than the other or which product is more suitable for them as an individual. I think CG Trader should remain working with printing, however, it's main concern should be CG :D, I would opt for a system that integrates different stores each with its own label/trademark placed under one common trademark (for sake of organization and readability), CGtraders main trademark would then function as a placeholder/main hub for many different sub stores. In fact, I had taken deliberate steps to ensure that I included no content in my designs that could even be construed as overlap. The problem is that the site is not able to get a clear separation between CG and 3D printing. If you are doing really bad with sales they let you do whatever you want but if you are doing well they step in and make things difficult. They often would ask me to just send them a model through email and pay me through paypal like in the old days. Ts would probably just pull up the royalty's and change policy if it stats feeling uncomfortable, but it would not change what is in memory. They already sell 3D printers on amazon so it isn't a far stretch to just add the models in the suggested items that go with 3D printers. If that is the case then better not to become exclusive! Agree with every word above. I think that they keep the 3D models as a curtsey only or to serve as samples that could at a later date be turned into prints. The biggest problem with TS is that it is a pyramid scheme if you have a diamond account you have a good chance of selling models but at the low levels you have no chance. https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/industrial/other/shipping-container--4. [/quote] What would be your opinion? Regarding response time, i respond to my buyers within 10 minutes unless im in bed and someone from other part of the world is trying to reach me. Every vendor who is exclusive is losing money and customers. And if the buyer sees one and the same model on CGT and on TS, then the price will choose on CGTrader You have insufficient credit to complete your purchase. I don't get paid until the 3rd, but I thought I'd download some things, look at their quality, fill up a cart and get prepared to purchase when the money comes around. The "crap models", "under-priced models" issue is a very sensitive topic that should be discussed. This use is prohibited if the virtual world-type is an open MMO, like Second Life. As modeller and as salesman i am interested in earn money only. He bought a cheap product (with a fake account) and post a bad rating. It is likely that people will want to try out new things in their stores from time to time. Searching for specific terms applying to a specific model, the results on Google are nearly on first page. Ha, ha. That's just an easy question to answer 1. you should check out all the posts about 3D models quality. and cgtrader is easy to navigate and great UI, Turbosquid is a very shit comparing to CGTrader, i dont like turbosquid i prefer CGtrader absolutely, I think it is more comfortable to use. Dear adentonclark, I know I personally would be Heh.. that's another topic but my top selling model is nude. Difference in quality of search results is shockingly vast in favor of TS. Some people mistaken de renders for real items already, can imagine how that would be on Ebay or amazon. Each sold model you can find anyone time in a download center. i think they both have there place . Yes, sometimes your points are not displayed for a day or two, but there were problems with the rating of models. And reasons can be any. People may think that having that option makes it more likely for sellers to see their work by placing their models in the incorrect category but actually that just irritates buyers who may just go elsewhere to buy. Turbosquid has the traffic and so you get the sails. Why should the artist suffer? Unlike Turbosquid which has remained practically the same since it was created and that actually has become dodgier over time as they have been adding more and more hoops for artists to jump through just to upload a basic model CGT has been great about constantly listening to it's artists needs and made great improvements! Nice try. It always depends on how you look at this industry from your point of view: - Are you into this market trying to make a living out of it? Same for me, here. I tried to contact the buyer several times with no response. Then they would only find the relevant models and get to purchasing them right away. A good platform should integrate all next gen communication technologies in order to support curent evolution and technological progress. On Ts we get served for extreme large cost and rather badly frankly said. Everything is more and more coming down to individual levels of very friendly and much more human communication. The next thing CGT needs to do is get in with Ebay, Amazon, walmart etc places where everyone buys not just 3D enthusiasts and that regular people trust with their money. CG Trader is easier to navigate, more stimulating perhaps than turbo squid. And CG Trader offers up to 94% royalty rate, where as Turbo Squid gives I believe 60% royalty rate CG Trader more open than Turbo Squid, and when registering, requires less personal information. rigged People SixPack 003 - Photogrammetry Population Character Rig, max blend c4d xsi ma lwo 3ds dae dxf fbx obj X, City People x500 Static Poses Lowpoly ArchViz, 20x LOW POLY CASUAL ELEGANT SITTING WOMAN MAN PEOPLE CROWD, Naked Fitness Blonde Woman with Tied Hair, max c4d unitypackage upk max ma c4d max ma fbx max. Sure, but I won't rinse and repeat the whole uploading process if it happens though. i think cgtrader can grow stronger with higher quality traffic. Turbosquid is basically a pyramid scheme for the most part unless you are established and have been in the top rank for many years. Ps. Now if this individual was for real I would have loved to contact him and ask If he would like to give me that converted file in exchange for every dollar he paid for the model. Regarding sales, for me personally CGtrader is in lead with a small margin for almost 5 months in row now, I'm confident the difference will get even bigger (so let's be realistic Ts sales is dropping dramatically). @limonadinis While this tactic worked very well at first and allowed to draw that many sellers in relatively short period of time, now it's time to think about buyers, as without them sellers will start to starve. Just condemn this type of fear tactics right-away and start supporting better organizations. I don't get paid until the 3rd, but I thought I'd download some things, look at their quality, fill up a cart and get prepared to purchase when the money comes around. I am going to start a list to promote artists who are making great models but just aren't getting the views. Been over 17 years with TS. To my amazement something ells also happened, there where still a few people buying my more expensive models on Ts. Sometimes you have to support the buyer. Recently I've been trying to contact my old clients and buyers and although they still have an interest in my models they don't quite trust CGT with their money. The conclusion seems, that clients are either more familiar with Tsquid, or that TSquid offers something else that is so valuable that even a much lower price doesn't matter. I make very nice sale here, and several each month, not as much as TurboSquid, but with 85% royalties I'm not complaining. Ebay it's ALL about direct seller/customer relationship. This is from my own personal experience. Hopefully we can find a way that would plrase all sides. Open a Support Ticket, Licensing questions?Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager. Anybody else suffered the same blows to their sales in the same months as the web updates? Also, trying to find an item that I already saw through the search is near impossible. That is the most important reason for them to be on CGtrader and it is essential to reward them for helping artist and the site earn money. I'm glad CGtrader and its community of supporters is able to make this situation come to an end. I started uploading some of my items to cg trader to see if it generated any income but as I have 70+ items and 0 sales I have decided to stop. CGtrader delivers the best basic structure to bring fort this new and healthy next gen market place. After that response I selected all my models and took them offline. On the other hand, reason for refund should be solid. Also the management is awkward on TS. If you continue to price your models higher on TurboSquid, you will will not be able to publish your content on TurboSquid, and we will temporarily take your current models offline. I'm not a modeler, I come here to buy models and this site is surprisingly obtuse when it comes to layout. and we lived the evolution of Turbosquid from being a pioneer of the 3D assets market working alongside the real content developers to become a typical corporation with financial backing from angel investors that only cares about financial results and is trying to strive the 3D market towards a monopoly where they can control both the producers and the customers, where acting as just a middleman gets Turbosquid the most profit from both. i guess both have different orientationone is cg and one is 3d printing oriented. Most of the Ts artists also moved their work over here and almost everyone knows that, just not the ones hoe are exclusive, it's not going to take too long now before they systematically start breaking the exclusive contract when they see sales going down every month and things going up over here. Turbosquid has a horrendous up-loader But they can still contact the artist for fixing issues directly here on CGTrader. http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/cgtrader.com, https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/exterior/landmark/notre-dame-de-paris-cathedral-61d97afb1b1a62861673c23f15b75c12, https://www.facebook.com/ActiveKetoGummiesAustraliaWebsite. Imagine if CGtrader provided a service where they could get photos of the broken mug, then have some artists create a 3D version from the broken pieces and then have it printed for the client and sent to their house or if the client wants they can use their 3D printing company of preference to do it. Having said that creating models of that high end quality is quite the burden on 3D modelers who just do it as a hobby or work 3D part time so a lot of artists are moving away from TS because they can't sell their regular models on there anymore. ! - Are you interested in just some quick cash grabs and extras here and there while you can, or would you like to be able to contribute to a fair market where you can make a living out of your passion? And it offers a more strategic dimension. Best of luck to cg trader, they have a great business model and site, it is just going to be incredibly difficult to take any of the market share from such a well established company. Is it the return guarantee if not satisfied? But now, I'm exploring a new platform which is Sketchfab. If you look around on the net on all the various forums everyone always mentions Turbosquid be it positively or negatively. Animated Camel 3D Model 13. So even if TS takes 60%, I still make better profit there because here I get 94% of nothing. I do not know if micro-managing brand or front-page appeal helps drive sales more effectively on other sites than on CGTrader. Buyer can contact seller directly, which can save him/her lot's of time and frustrations. [http://www.google.com|google11] I can easily imagine that serious clients who value their time very high, might choose TS over CGT without second thought. :). Besides how about your right to fair trade? We are writing to inform you that we are taking your content offline for 60 days as you have continued to change your prices to be higher on TurboSquid. https://garagedoorrepairchesapeake.com/garage-door-replacement/. In fact my sells on TS are actually going down while they go up on CGt. IMHO that is main area where CGT must up their game significantly. CGtrader is founded upon the best ideas and the people hoe believe in it and keep supporting it no matter what and hard work and determination always win. Fantasy is a bit better, but sic-fi gets me 10 copyright infringements on the first page alone (star wars characters, mainly). Due to its royalty politic and complex registration process, I've finally stopped selling 3D models on TS. Bangalore Escort Part of it is because they don't want to get scammed. TurboSquid is not a company that practices any kind of #FairBusiness, and there is many other cases from other people stating the same for different reasons: To me it feels like he is amongst us and we are performing a team effort. Rigged models are great for art projects, games, movies or VR experiences, because they save a lot of development time. And to be fair, you will never get exact 40% from squid either, because they have payout fees too and also they withold certain amount from US purchases. for someone that is a little more unique. CGt embraces all modern communication technologies which is critical to establish such a place. It would be great to have more of your feedback so we could make it better for buyers. Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager, + blend c4d xsi ma lwo 3ds dae dxf fbx obj X, $10,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), Uncapped Legal Protection (Indemnification), $1,000,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), $250,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification). A very interesting idea about the stores and collections. @tomislavveg, that is very true, but as marvimation already mentioned, CGT first have to draw those buyers to its web, otherwise there's not much use from all those benefits if there's no buyers who could reap them :]. i have sold it to millenium shipping containers amongst other professional business. [quote]2. I did not know about that. No matter how many 3D models you need, we'll take care of it. NoneCG will be up for it. In fact I hope that once buyers begin to see the difference in quality on this site they will jump ship but the thing that still trips up CGTrader is the consumer confidence. In my experience often times a client will ask for certain models but then one must take into consideration what computer specs they have because you don't want your client to get frustrated with the models you buy. Realistic Female 3D Model. Thanks for dropping by and great news about an eventual homepage re-design. https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/cathedral-paris-notre-dame-3d-obj/933856?referral=pit_zavra From buyer perspective, i think CGTrader also have lots of advantages. Same for me, here. (I forgot to put TS up). For myself, long live CGTrader and may they keep their principles as they grow. Being an artist himself makes a huge difference in this regard. flob3d: I don't know if Jonathan invented the CheckMate, but what I can say is that Jonathan is a good professional and he often helped me a lot, so I have no complaints to make. Turbosquid is the exact opposite. Remember The3DStudio? Renderosity. - Once in a while, alert all designers that a cleaning operation will be made, and wipe out objects that are of a too bad quality or copyright infringements. Well, unless I can verify the quality of the model I'm not going to pay for most things. I see what you mean but I think it depends on how you are covering markets. Turbosquid just has it backwards. CG Trader. Plus, as I saw in another post, turbosquid does not let you post any links. ,,The only thing that has cgtrader extra is the freelance job,,?? They could put down an amount between 1 to 5 bucks as a deposit and after sampling the model as you suggested they could deduct that amount from the final sale. rigged People SixPack 003 - Photogrammetry Population Character Rig, Realistic Human Body Basemesh - UVMapped - Rigged, CARTOON MAN AND WOMAN - TOON MOTHER AND FATHER, Worker Mining Safety Female - Bella - Harness, Naked Fitness Blonde Woman with Tied Hair. We all agree that CGT is the better site and needs to win the fight but we all need to reach out to the really influential people and make sure they start promoting the site or we won't win. (e.g. Thanks again guys, and let us know if you have any further comments or questions. (so you basically pay for a fraud protection system for people hoe sell themselves out exclusively). Don't know if it's already mentioned in this thread, but in TS you have a refund system, when customer buyed your product has ability to bring back his money and it'll subracted from your earnings, if he doesn't like a model for some reason. CGT is the only website that really understand both the artists and customer needs! @Urecky, while i'm agree with you in general, let me argue on some specific points. This industry really needs a giant hub were al CGpeople (weather young and inexperienced ore diehard veterans) can communicate, learn, trade, fundraise and collaborate. We at NoneCg think that both CGtrader and Sellers will benefit from the exact opposite policy. Site issues? Hmm, i went to your profile and i see no negative feedback. @IterateCGI These are great ideas and in fact we are currently working on one campaign that will involve the community to help market CGTrader better. [link="http://www.google.com"]google1[/link] @captainmarlowe Thanks a lot for a lot of valid points regarding search and categorization! CGTrader. They lie about your rights on Turbosquid. It seems to me that over time a CGTrader will be able to overtake TurboSquid in many positions, if TS does not change its policy. They do not deserve that I fed them 60% But for the rest i do like the way cgtrader functions, more royalty rate, easy uploading and a community forum and job board. I would expect those kinds of charges from a real art gallery with real world space that could sell my work for 10,000 a pop, not some virtual space that sells my work for 50 bucks. Batman (Rig) for Maya 10. . A few months went by with my models offline and during that time my GCt sales gradually went up at a level consistent with the few sales I had left behind on Ts so I just deleted all my models at Ts. According to TS "Marmoset Toolbag's watermark" is an overlay and a no no. Yes, CG Trader is the best now some bugs should be solved. These people quote Sun Tzu when you talk to them, so guess their future plans for you. No matter how many 3D models you need, we'll take care of it. Thanks for your feedback, it really makes sense. You need to find what you want based on category and budget and purchase it quickly so you can use the product or send it to who will. What's lacking? Get this item for $ when you bundle it with the items in your cart. And also because of the complete isolation of the seller-buyer. As every site takes a small cut from the sales of a model. Add a Payment Method, Add a Payment Because of its design and trade/royalty system, CGTrader seems better and more advantageous, but at the end of the day, I get much more income from Turbosquid and The3Dstudio. In other countries like China film production is far better funded so perhaps CGTrader could try opening it's doors to Hong Kong film studios etc Japan is also far better funded and in fact Turbosquid is also selling models on the Japanese market. But I think that CheckMate was especially created to bring artists to exclusivity, rather than promote quality. We've been there, even being "Squid Guild exclusive" for some time to test the experience ourselves for real, and after more than 10 years with all our experiences and stats in hand we can state without a doubt that the business model offered by Turbosquid doesn't pay off in the mid-long term. You can change your subscription preferences at any time in the account settings. [google][http://www.google.com|google4 ] As someone suggested most serious buyers will end up buying 100 bucks worth of models so putting down 1 Dollar isn't going to cause any trouble.