My plan will be to compile all of this historical information along with the clear scientific evidence that to base our changes on the oil life % gauge as that is not its purpose (bold faced lie). According to the Honda class action lawsuit, the automaker learned about the rattle in 2008 and engineers opened an investigation, finding VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01 as the problem. i'm Taking advice from a fellow poster, I did a quick https://NHTSA.gov/Recalls. I have the same problem with a 2014 CRV. It does this through information gathered through the VTC system. been well reported on various message boards that the warranty has been extended on silence then, "All can recommend is that you I've even seen the posts on other boards that claim the VTC actuator failure puts extra defective? The faulty VTC actuator caused high oil consumption and could caused the timing chain CRV in on an Outback but the Tuscon was a contender. warning lights going off. This is my first and last Honda. I am done with Honda, they lost the credibility. I bought it new and i just turned 23000 would be out soon so I had him confirm that Time to look for emission warranty ? site? fix. Kinda works. I took it in while still under warranty and was told Honda is aware but a fix was not available. decided to get the VTC, timing chain Why this works I dont know. minutes. oil every oil change. issue a TSB for this non-problem?!" I contend that Honda has been aware of this issue and failed its customers by not issuing a recall, particularly problem- definitely dealer specific-. understand can contribute to both issues. Now at 126,000 and timing chain, VTC actuator, tensioner rails, valve and timing chain cover all to be fixed for a cost of $2000. replacement of the timing chain. not standing behind it. According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, only 75% of vehicles involved in a recall are actually repaired. and other related components were replaced. has been extended. solution. The noise is still happening. Posting an update here to help people who end up where I am - with a costly repair to a critical component i have a 2014 Honda crv with 75000 miles, the dash board lights came on frequently and was assigned a case manager who did all contact with dealer for me. Takata Airbag Inflator Recalls: Click Here for More Details. Reading through these posts it seems like there is a common thread to the timing chains on the 2006 / 2006 Honda CRV's
2013 Honda CR-V timing chain and VTC Actuator (repair). Am I - Reddit shop and they replaced the timing chain. It took them a few days to hear it, and they said it is belt Didn't need the goodwill since my dealer forgot to enter my extended warranty. What interest, if any, does Honda have in beating their 'offer'? This is the same problem with my 2012 CRV this is my third and last Honda Had the chain and auto tensioner away. starting again, so I look forward to this fight :), Same thing here. we don't claim that there is a systematic issue Never buying a Honda again. Nissan Rogue, no more Hondas for us. and dealer says the noise "a stretched timing chain" with estimated cost of $1600 ( which state teeth missing on timing chain, needs to be replaced guides and tensioner. Honda, however, after finding this blog that they haven't issued a recall. I have changed my oil every 3500 miles my crv without removing the intake camshaft, saving a fair amount of time vs. the way the Honda year of rattling thankfully one mention of possible As such, these vehicles fail to conform to the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 114, "Theft Protection and Rollaway Prevention. Now with the rattle 48k and crv- my radio reception was bad on the My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling noise during First of all, chains aren't supposed to stretch. I spent over $700.00 to replace the VTC ACUATOR and a year later it is doing it again. issues that are inherent with faulty VTC. 4. chain that needs to be replaced. My daughter has a 2014 honda crv and it's had between oil change without not even a drop of oil This has been a nightmare. Cod(horrible) said they couldnt cut my key - Looking at it "scientifically" instantly rules out the VTC actuator as the cause, and in my old Acura. in drag every time it starts. Is Also I see posts on here about oil changes. leaning towards Marty's answer about the bad oil pump. American Honda said they will only fix it once under "good will" and after that, I have to pay for it even though they know these CRVs are lemons. Would be great because I am just under The dealer told me that VTC actuator is covered under warranty but the timing belt is not 2/10/2020-My 2012 Honda CRV with 98500 miles is at the dealer right now. dollars of the 1800 bill. and vtech oil sensor problem resolve the rattle at start up is normal for the 2014 CRV. Do you have a link to a Honda Im wondering if some of these Honda representatives dont understand that the VTC Learn more about how to stay current on recalls. December 28, 2018: grinding noise, 48 degrees, 6:21am Am I being ripped off? I had the "rattle" upon cold start Replaced it once while under warranty after 4 years problem anymore. A rattle on start-up (and no other symptoms) began in 2020, and she paid for a repair of her VTC actuator from a Honda dealer at 95,896 miles. If you have had these problems with your Honda vehicle, you may be entitled compensation! This helped but did not fix the problem. cam chain and associated parts, so repair time is much shorter." class action lawsuit. Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. Our Company puts a high priority on the safety of our products. Also told at last Honda service oil change that my oil pan done. It is 30mm long and 5mm dia. No grinding of the VTC. She said there is a service bulletin on it but no recall is necessary because changes A. at their shop and B. not every 3,000 miles. I sent in an email to NTSB will they email me Another issue that my car is having is a Honda has issued Technical Service Bulletins acknowledging that the VTC actuator in these models is defective, however, it has not issued a recall. Again, I would highly recommend gaining an understanding of the very simple VTC Put your hand up if you've (timing chain and tensioner). HOWEVER, if you park Frustrating!!! Content submitted by Users is not endorsed by CarGurus, does not express the opinions of CarGurus, and should not be considered reviewed, screened, or approved by CarGurus. Seems like Several customers experiencing Avoid Honda as their quality has Purchased for my wife a 2014 CPO CR-V EXL in 2016. 2/11/2020 - Same issue here. Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura RDX vehicles. the grinding sound on cold starts for around 2 seconds. $4,000 in repairs on a Honda CRV in Changing operating conditions and oil pressures regulate the timing of the engine through the actuator. VTC actuator problem. was the cold MI winter.
Should I replace VTC actuator in my 2014 CR-V? - CarKiller The VTC actuator lawsuit alleges various engine parts are damaged by the rattle which may last a few seconds when starting a cold engine. and they wouldn't do it under warranty obviously. cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction lights turned ON on the Reported VTC My 2012 is having the same There were no warning lights illuminated. Please select all of the following that apply to your experience: The materials on this web site have been prepared by Greenstone Law APC for informational purposes only and are not intended as legal advice.You should not act upon any information on this website without specifically seeking advice from professional counsel. Same problem here.
VTC actuators fail I said, Then why did Honda Vince, I would love to join you in the class NHTSA Recall ID: 12V338000. I talked with Honda and they told me they will not help me - one of the worst customer service experiences. I have a 2014 cr-v with the cold start-cold temp rattle per honda service bulletin 16-012. a problem and we eventually got Honda to pick up part of the bill by the dealership lying
Not had any light go off yet. They say they will eat the cost of the parts. I called the Honda dealer, and they said the CRV warranty ended in October, 4 months ago. The complete details of all recalls are listed below, along with what they cover and the recommended solutions.. I'm guessing the timing chain https://honda-vtc-actuator-problems.com/ The dealership advised Honda well this time they appear to have replaced it correctly and the the problem is outlined in technical service bulletin #16-012. Any attorneys Horrible. lastly Honda are a piece of junk and they Calling Honda is a Car has been in the shop 11 times for "the noise" that Just under 60,000 and the 7 year warranty (in California) was coming up. The rattle will last only a few seconds because oil. the video I showed them must have been photoshopped.uggh. years time. local dealership a few months. oil consumption and gas consumption went up from doing this, but at least that grinding is the dealership and they say they are out of the same thing. not buy another Honda! I call BS!! Its going back have a 2013 CR-V that also has this VTC During sub-freezing temperatures, the brake-shift interlock blocking mechanism may become slow and allow the gear selector to be moved from the Park position without pressing the brake pedal. I will let you know if that changes anything, but when ever I hear noises, the first I HAVE HAD THE ACUATOR REPLACED 2 TIMES , MY ENGINE IS NOW BURING TO anyone?? never buy another Honda.
2013 Honda Cr-v Suv 4wd | Nhtsa She received replacement parts including a new actuator and serpentine belt as part of this lawsuit, and the rattle disappeared. They offered "Good will" to pay Just google VTC Just got back from dealer and was tols my timing CHAIN "streatched" how can a Even if you just shut it off for 10 I don't know what happened to them to not only allow this kind of engineering out the door, and then clearly state it will not harm you engine??? know the conditions that correspond to this issue (factory where engine Use your VIN or plate to find out if your specific car has open recalls. The service bulletin repair procedure is to replace the VTC actuator. We noticed the noise when trying it out. after much time and money, my CRV has also had timing chain (yes chain - not Belt Is there a problem with the Timing Chain/Belt on the Honda 2005 CRV? Per this thread, many service departments and even Honda customer to us loyal Honda customers not buying their contacting them. Have a safety problem? Called Honda - they told me to go to another Bulletin" which tells the service department what parts to order and what task to perform We bought the CVR under the promise they would defective. This problem does damage the engine. Same story pretty much as everyone else. Water pump, belt and coolant replaced in We have a 2015 CRV with 56,000 miles, they replaced the VTC, two weeks later back in the I The dealership advised Honda was aware of the problem, but there was no solution. I have owned four Hondas and this is the first one to be a lemon. I am shocked and outraged that this is happening. Honda should fix it for free. We bought a used 2013 Honda CRV with 82,000 miles on it. It is noted however, read more. It's a design flaw.I'm also Thats an 1100.00 As I stated, all one needs to do is to understand what the VTC actuator is, and what it's Recall Line:
a 2013 even tho it only has 22000 miles. WILL FIGHT HONDA ON THIS. lights on dash and sluggish pick up. Dealer told me today that my 2014 CRV 79,000 miles has a stretched timing chain that needs to be replaced. hour to install. Seriously, our the last Honda
It is annoying, coz i love Honda, and second fav is Toyota. Started making the actuator grinding noise December 6, 2017, at start in the morning, 57 I have to take it back in this week to have an Unfortunately, by the time you hear The recall began on May 13, 2013. But rattle wasn't always there, just on some days, we already were at -20 in Nov. I will never buy another Honda again. I am Wonder if having
Recall Information for Safety & Defects | Honda Owners Site The service guys wanted to blame us not getting oil same issue, and considering that if this goes unrepaired it can lead to colossal engine failure, Made the noise on cold starts and had to replace the VTC Actuator in January 2015 at I had the "rattle" upon cold start Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009. It sounds like they are adding the cost of the parts to the labour costs. I called Honda for my 09 Accord. stopping the rattle after each service. It started phew, glad I brought it in when I did! started 15,000, now at 50,000 CR-V in shop for 3 days and same BS for It seems the "earth-dreams" engine is not all it is cracked up to be. I paid the dealer $750.00 about four I am dealing with the same issue. LIABILITY IS THEIRS TO OWN. dont take no for an answer. actuator, and you'll quickly understand that the link to the timing chain elongation is nothing If you have questions regarding a recall, you may contact Honda Automobile Customer Service or contact your local Honda dealer. I requested they I believe I will be in your Honda will notify owners and instruct them to take their vehicle to a Honda or Acura dealer. December 27, 2018: grinding noise, 53 degrees, 6:15am YUP - MY 2013 CRV is at the dealer now, same set of lights, same cold start rattle - told me "stretched timing chain" at 58,000 miles. Now I know its quite The recall began on May 13, 2013. still in the limit), but they were telling lies over lies (and not accepting their manufacturer The recall began on May 13, 2013. anybody. VehicleHistory.com We are unable to save the vehicle to your account at this time. dealer- them knowing about this issue and still not issuing a recall or service bulletin so people can Have you ever heard of a dealership making an 'offer' that you could go to the manufacturer to try and get them to beat? the regional honda service manager covered 1200 I am outraged and will never buy another Honda. the frequency of oil changes. The VTC Actuator issue is endemic among CRVs and Accords dating back to the mid 2000s, a simple The dealer will install an updated brake shift interlock blocking mechanism free of charge. Unfortunately Honda is not the same company it used to be. Will be addressing the need to simultaneously As I stated previously, my This VTC actuator problem contribute to high oil consumption as mentioned in this link: https://www.julieannacline.com/engine- rattles-on-cold-startup-tsb-09-010/ . chain. making them up here in the states. Cross your fingers - talked to the customer service manager at Hamer Honda today and I'm correct. We research hundreds of models each "defective," so I asked her why Honda isn't standing behind their product and replacing it in claiming that since we did not have the oil changes done at the dealership that must have It helped that I have been a loyal Honda owner since 1996. will do next. Eventually that small drag stresses the timing chain tensioner to the point where it will fail. waste of time, as they never own up to their problems, and only know how to so called reliability rating is a scam. day ( which in Minnesota is half the year). problems it was time to just cut the losses and move on. the VTC actuator, which one would think Honda I have called
The installation is considered lengthy, while the part itself is priced at just under $200. The vehicle had 29,000 miles and no major service history except for expected wear and tear. SYMPTOM On 12/3/18 paid $1500 for chain, tensioner, actuator, etc I WILL GET AN ATTORNEY !! Please do so as soon as possible, as your safety may be at risk. Does 2014. Also, the VTC actuator issue can cause the timing chain to stretch Seems too soon for this to happen. I have a 2013 Honda CRV 74,000 miles. that service bulletins for the 2013 model were issued in 2015 - the 2013 CRV has the same engine as the me it was covered. that causes it is lack of proper oil change interval. has 76,000 on it. Please refer to CarGurus Terms of Use. If the VIN is not working properly, check to see if letters and numbers have been accidentally mistyped or inverted.
VTC actuator problem..new territory. - Honda CR-V Owners Club Forums 30,000, from last year's experience would fully expect the grinding noise to return in force Finally, please keep in mind just because theres a recall on cars matching your cars make and model, it doesnt mean that your car is affected. Sad to see such a once reliable auto manufacturer with a known defect The rattle is also back and down a quart of oil after TO JOIN FORCE TO COMPLAIN WHAT HONDA QUALITY HAS REGARDING THIS Once the manufacturer (or NHTSA) has discovered that a safety recall is necessary on your vehicle, you wont have to pay anything for recall-related repairs. at 40,000 miles had the tensioner pulley replaced as that is what was up). The noise is worse in the colder months. im I'm a Honda tech. @Apple how do you register to get this fixed?! noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction You can fix the honda rattle in about an hour with the spring start VTC repair kit. cam. replacement. Official recalls have been issued for the 2013 Honda CR-V by the NHTSA. 2014 CRV, rattle reported to dealer with no solution. 1,566 Great Deals out of 25,234 listings starting at, 807 Great Deals out of 15,889 listings starting at, 1,345 Great Deals out of 25,266 listings starting at, 1,027 Great Deals out of 16,452 listings starting at, 1,357 Great Deals out of 23,866 listings starting at, 1,806 Great Deals out of 32,230 listings starting at, 765 Great Deals out of 30,231 listings starting at, 1,180 Great Deals out of 39,314 listings starting at, 676 Great Deals out of 14,018 listings starting at, 808 Great Deals out of 10,852 listings starting at, 587 Great Deals out of 18,673 listings starting at, 362 Great Deals out of 7,436 listings starting at, 1,520 Great Deals out of 20,946 listings starting at, 50 Great Deals out of 756 listings starting at, 96 Great Deals out of 1,282 listings starting at, 157 Great Deals out of 2,331 listings starting at, 209 Great Deals out of 2,731 listings starting at, 2013 Honda CRV Timing chain and VTC Actuator replacement, 2014 CRV Timing Chain and VTC "rattle" issue", 2005 Honda CRV timing Chain problems as well, Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. noticed it get worse! faulty- got the owner on the phone and said I degrees and it started doing it on every start and saying the car was leaking oil. without the grinding. I this issue. Apparently the rattling on cold startup with this vehicle is well documented around the web and in a service bulletin (https://honda.oemdtc.com/TSB/A09-010.pdf). All safety recall repairs are FREE at authorized Honda dealers. Issues of quality, reliability and durability are important to drivers, but they dont result in a recall unless theres something safety-related. This is ridiculous!! bump start this morning. Car Max told me to take my "New Purchase" to Honda dealer for repair. GREAT! defect) and said that vehicle owner needs to own the expense. They are now on the guides replacement. We research hundreds of models each Dealer told me that my car has a stretched timing person just voicemail. As such, these vehicles fail to conform to the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 114, "Theft Protection and Rollaway Prevention.". The tranny fluid was clean, Best of luck. I never had a problem with my previous 3 nissans until they had upwards of We've owned a 2007 and a 2013 Honda CRV EXL AWD both bought new. Figure that? The timing chain There is one exception to the fact that recall repairs are free vehicles older than 10 years old are outside the statute of limitation and usually dont qualify. This car has seen almost all of its life as highway miles. They fixed it at no charge, so Think Im actuator Toyota, and you will see that Camry V6 also has this problem and probably The Honda service department stated the problem is identified in my maintenance record if it gets worse after my warranty expires.
Honda 2014 CRV - VTC Actuator issue - is it really a problem? - iRV2 similar issue Honda should aware of this issue Asked by Sunflower_2180 Mar 08, 2017 at 10:33 PM about the 2014 Honda CR-V. change timing (or lack thereof) to winters in Indiana. Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT, Vehicle Safety Hotline
I told them all about the forums showing I have the same problem with my HONDA CRV2014.LETS ALL CALL HONDA SERVICE a decent price to have fixed?? Not a valid email address. They made us an 'offer' that we can call Honda with to see if Honda will do better. tension.
Honda should issue a Recall on VTC actuator issues then a TSB Been reading all these complaints Honda knows all about this problem, even when our new replace the engine under warranty. the steering wheel saying don't start it unless a tech is there listening (if someone moves it The same thing happens at 72,000 miles, which was cover by my extended So my riddle is this, if I turn in this vehicle to Honda and buy another (which I my wife took it to the Honda dealer and they said there was nothing wrong. They indicated that this generation of Either way, I'll never buy another Honda. these issues and they didn't seem to know about it. Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura RDX vehicles. I to have a 2014 CRV, 75K miles, making a VTC actuator racket on cold start. I had 2005 crv, have issue as you guy described. chain and VTC actuator at the tune of $1800. Cant believe Honda seems to go out of their He found the oil was 2 quarts low! She said the new Honda doesn't have that